Rhetoricbuster

With Democrats and liberals crying racism on a daily basis, it is clear that they have no intention of running on their record. The Obama agenda has damaged Democrats, both from exposing Democrats for who they are, they are not the JFK Democrats, and showing what they will do to pass agenda items that we, the people, just cannot stomach. They went all “Damn the Torpedoes, Full Speed Ahead” on us. They had to use bribery, lies, backroom deals and parliamentary tricks. Nancy Pelosi said the the most inane thing, “We have to pass the bill (health care takeover) so you can see what’s in it, away from the fog of controversy.”

She missed the point, the controversy was them passing the bill through lying, bribing, and trickery. They have already started talking about the public option. They know they already got us. They passed a health insurance company destruction program. It will raise the costs for most people, as analyzed by economists, it will cost more than stated to help the ‘chronically uninsured’, it creates a tax on the uninsured that is much less than a policy, while requiring insurance companies to sell policies at regulated prices, and no pre-existing conditions can be considered.

The idea is to create a government insurance company to funnel us into. Barack Obama said it had to be done incrementally. The first increment is done. We, the voters, have only ourselves to blame for this. We elected these guys.

The President is a hard left ideologue, he cares more about his agenda no matter that we are in a recession. I believe he thinks it will help keep Democrats in power. It seems more and more that Democrats are going to get thumped.

I can’t speak for any one else, but I can point out something that is weird to me. Why is it that liberals unload hate on the people who express ideas they disagree with? If you don’t like an idea of the tea party, why call some one a tea bagger? Why not just refute the idea with facts? Don’t hate the person, hate the idea.

Another example is climate change. It is clear humans have a massive impact on our environment, good and bad. It is clear that the climate changes, that it has for millions of years, and that we have 9,000 years more warming on the 20,000 year climate cycle we used to teach in school, you know, the one that had glaciers in Kentucky. 11,000 years ago the climate stopped cooling and started warming on the 20,000 year upswing, who knew that 11,000 years in the extreme left in this country would seize on it to control people’s behavior? Either way, the extreme left will have 9,000 years of warming to bolster their claims. We will all be dead by then, it will be hard to prove them wrong.  It took a long time to prove that thunderstorms are just weather events, not acts of god which allow the ‘chosen’ to receive tithes. It took a long time to prove that the earth was not the center of the universe.

The adherents in the church of Our Lady of Perpetual Climate Change are doing their very best to attempt to convince you that your actions cause thunderstorms, well that is the analogy, they really want to convince you that your actions are making the earth warm, and that without those actions the earth would not warm. Although we have been told that the earth is going to warm for 9,000 more years, that does not factor in. As with any charlatan, if we change our actions and the earth continues on it’s 20,000 year cycle, the Warmers will make excuses. They can’t explain how the earth warmed and cooled without humans.

Back to my point, lefties call skeptics that humans cause climate change, “deniers”, not attacking the ideas with fact. Why should I believe that the earth is warming? Because, before climate science became politicized, we were told by credible scientists that the eath would by warming for another 9,000 years. That glaciers were in Kentucky and an ice sheet covered the continent. We have 11,000 years to present, why would anyone believe their will be glacier growth in the next 9,000 years?

Please explain why, with increasing emissions, the climate cooled for 30 years from the 1940’s to the 70’s? Please explain the small ice age from 1545 to 1850? How about the medieval warming from 700 to 900 (approx.)?

Just correlate that, plus millions of years of more drastic climate change with no humans to minimal change since humans have been ‘changing the climate’

As to science, back before the hypothesis became ‘humans cause climate change, prove it’, the hypothesis was ‘what causes climate change, let’s find out’.

We need to get back there.

william51 wrote: and the other guy that said the same thing.

America, votes in November are really coming down to a choice between leaders who offer solutions and hope vs those who peddle division and encourage hatred. Who would have thought that the tactics of Adolph Hitler and Joseph Goebbels would be alive and well under the Repubican banner in the year 2010?

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Let’s see, the tactics of Nazi’s, you mean like attempting to whip up the population into a nationalistic furor against the evil insurance companies on a claim denial rate of 4%?

Or putting Union thugs at town halls to stifle the citizens right to redress a grievance and intimidate them?

Or could it be the celebrations of a movie that portrayed the assassination of George W Bush, a movie so revered that it won awards? With the comment by the film maker,”Who thought people would be upset about a film that portrays assassinating President Bush?”

What about the big lie, the premise, that the whole health care delivery system in the US is broken. With 75-85%(depending on which poll) of the people liking how it works for them, Democrats decided that the whole thing has to change, the lie is that it is broken. For the 15-25% unhappy people we are going to allow the government to cause the destruction of an industry, which facilitates the take over?

Goebbels would be proud of the lies that have been accepted as truths. It does help having a compliant media. The best one is that this law strengthens insurance companies. That one is hilarious.

This is not complicated, there is common sense involved. Don’t get lost here. Under this law, healthy people will have the option to pay a ‘fine’ or tax, since the IRS is going to enforce this, that is way less than an insurance policy. Under this law, people can buy a policy the day they need it, with no pre-existing conditions taken into consideration, what else can you conclude?

Now here’s the common sense part. The fine is supposed to compel you to purchase a health policy. OK, then why is the fine way less than a policy? Why would any of you liberals believe that people would pay three times the fine/tax instead of paying the fine/tax.

That is anti-logic. There is no penalty for paying the fine/tax for 10 years, and then buying ‘insurance’ the day your doctor diagnoses you with cancer. Only an idiot would buy a policy before they need it. Combine that with no maximum benefit, and mandated cost structures, how does this strengthen these companies again?

Another good tactic is violence, since you brought it up. Do you mean violence like when lefties trash cities, as well? Like protests in Seattle, DC, Copenhagen, Milan, and Prague. Look at the anti-war riots in the sixties.

What about the death threats Stupak and others received when he was against the Senate takeover bill for all those long months? That was lefty violence and threats. Not more than a tiny peep about that in the media.